[Ellington]

Visited my dealer yesterday with documents pending delivery on 26th - (Acenta Premium in Red) & saw aQQ that had been been treated with their Premier Wax 3 years ago!

I currently have a QQ which is waxed 2-3 times a year and washed regularly with Mer, (fantastic product!)but the difference was incredible, mine looked very dull and tired by comparison! So much so that Iordered the treatment with a set of mudflaps to the Juke order.

I received a very good price for the QQ in PX, and expect the Juke to hold it's price, but the Premier Wax has got to add to the value.

Anyone else tried it?

 

[AGLImages]

It looks like a good idea, my wife had her VW Fox done and it's a year old now and still looks fantastic.My Note is looking a little tired at eighteen months even though I polish it monthly and wash it every three to four days.I'm now wishing I went for the option on the Juke!
Edited by: AGLImages

 

[andytran]

OOOOO Gawd, here we go again....I assume there were very large windows in your dealership, cause they seen you coming!!!!!!

By the way, MER is fantastic on older cars as its slightly abrasive and can help lift years of ground in roadscum. - wouldnt recommend it on new paint though!!

Andy

 

[Ellington]

Well Andtran, despite being rude you have a point, except that the QQ in question was parked by the current owner right next to mine, and I was talking to the owner who stated he hadn't polished the car - ever!

 

[12Inchmick]

30 - 15...................

 

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somehow I dont think andy will lose this one
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[andytran]

Sorry Ellington,

Really dont mean to be rude - Im actually fighting the corner of the consumer - people like you!!!
These "everlasting"waxes are a TOTAL AND UTTER CON.
They are ALL, very good quality waxes/sealants. Look at every single manufacturers website - they are very selective in their claims.
Some say you will never have to wax your car again - yes so?? You dont have to wax your car at all do you? Eventually the lacquer will get embedded with grime and stop the water from beading, but you dont have to wax it!!
If youpolish you QQ with Mer, as I said earlier, its an abraisve polish which will skim a superfine layer of lacquer off your car everytime you use it. If the guy you spoke to had a better finish on his paintwork and has never waxed it - theres your answer!! Everytime you wax yours, you are making swirl marks in the lacquer and cutting it back slowly. But, on saying this, a difference would be that yours would still bead water and his wouldnt. If his beads water and he says it hasnt been waxed in 3 years, theres one answer - he is lying to you.

I really dont want to keep banging on about this - these products cost in the region of between £10-£50 to buy at cost, then Dealers charge upwards of £250 to "apply" them. They take NO specialist skill and can be easily applied at home using nothing more than a couple of clean cloths.
They are, along with GAP insurance, a cashcow for car dealers.

OK, soapbox away, it makes no odds to me if you buy this stuff or not, it just annoys me when people believe the outlandish dealer claims as to what this stuff can do.

Sensible money goes on

Autoglym Hi Def wax
Autoglym lifeshine
Any Collinite wax
Any Meguires Carnuba wax
Any dodo juice carnuba wax

All of the above are available for less than £50 each (mostly £20) and will last you for a few years if you wax your car 3 to 4 times a year.

OK Im done on this one......promise to all forum members that I wont bang on about this again!!!

JUST DONT LET YOURSELF BE CONNED!!

Andy

Oh, by the way, my brother in law was once a valeter fora prestige manufacturers dealership in Aberdeen- lets just say that when you pay for these "superdooper" paint finishes, you dont always get them on your car............

Edited by: andytran

 

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game set and match

andy thought about doing a guide on how to make your car shine
serious now as detailed info would appeal to me
ok i know how to spiv up an old banger but not how to get the best from my new machine

 

[feefeeglasgow]

I take it thats the same a supragard the dealers are bumping about?/
Had that done on my first Qashqai and didn't notice the difference.
Waste of money in my opinion.
CheersFee x

 

[simmo]

well said andy.early this year i found collinite 476s (ebayabout £15 i think)in myopinion it cant bebeaten.amazing !!!! simmo.

 

[andytran]

well said andy.early this year i found collinite 476s (ebayabout £15 i think)in myopinion it cant bebeaten.amazing !!!!
simmo.

Cheers all,

Simmo, glad Im not the only one who bangs on about collinite - its hard work to take of if you put it on a bit "generously" but there is NOTHING out there for giving such a long lasting finish.

Deks36 - TBH mate, apart from making sure you wash your car regularly to remove salt/grit and then wax quarterly with a good quality wax as listed above, there really isnt any secrets for new cars.
OK, older cars can be transformed with a claybar and machine polish. But for a brand new baby Juke, Id stick to quality waxing for the first 2 years or so!

Fee yes this is the same sort of stuff as supagard - its OK but ignore the claims of the makers!!

andy

 

[chris78]

Having listened to Andy banging on about this, I stil believe that Autoglym lifeshine as an excellent product (in conjunction with a good wax like high def), but I've decided to do the lifeshine myself after doing a **** of a lot of research on the internet. I don't trust ebay and the stupidly cheap prices on there, so I've brought the whole lifeshine product from the link below:
http://www.polishedcarcare.co.uk/epages/es112290.sf
Under £60, which means a £240 saving for DIY. From what I've read its easy to do. I'll report back when I get the product and car!
The best thing is that this will give me enough for 2 cars so both the Juke and the missus Fiesta can be done.

 

[nissanjukebox]

Nice to see people who really like them clean

My self I just bought some cleaning stuff

promoted by a good friend of mine which clean s car as a hobby

my list:
Gliptone - Liquid Leather Protection Conditioner - 250ml
Gliptone - Liquid Leather Gentle Cleaner - 250ml
Smartwax - SmartDressing - 437ml
Wolfgang - Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 - 473ml
Dodo Juice - Supernatural Short Hair Wash Mitt
Dodo Juice - Born to be Mild shampoo - 250ml
Collinite - 915 (not sure wich one actually)

And some applicator things and drying thing, but I got that allready allot
1 100582 Mothers Wax - Microfiber Applicator Pads - 2st.
1 101256 Carrand - Microfiber MAX Soft Touch Detailing Towel - 40x45cm

I also use after every wash a quick spray of last touch from mequairs (half water half lasttouch)

works great

espacially with black I am trying to avoid the swirlsEdited by: nissanjukebox

 

[Ellington]

There are obviously some very knowledgeable people about when in comes to the waxing and maintenance of cars, and they pass the information on in a helpful and friendly way. I didn't join this forum to be insulted, but to gain helpful advice, and hopefully when Andytranadvances in years, he will not be subjected to arthritis which somewhat limits the gymnastics involved in waxing cars.
Thank you everyone for the information.

 

[andytran]

There are obviously some very knowledgeable people about when in comes to the waxing and maintenance of cars, and they pass the information on in a helpful and friendly way. I didn't join this forum to be insulted, but to gain helpful advice, and hopefully when Andytranadvances in years, he will not be subjected to arthritis which somewhat limits the gymnastics involved in waxing cars.
Thank you everyone for the information.

Pardon me for trying to save you wasting your money.......if youd bothered to read any of the earlier forum posts, you might have noted that Im not a fan of this stuff. Its not personal.
If you think that a throwaway joke like "the dealer saw you coming" is insulting, then I sincerely pity you.

AndyEdited by: andytran

 

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There are obviously some very knowledgeable people about when in comes to the waxing and maintenance of cars, and they pass the information on in a helpful and friendly way. I didn't join this forum to be insulted, but to gain helpful advice, and hopefully when Andytranadvances in years, he will not be subjected to arthritis which somewhat limits the gymnastics involved in waxing cars.
Thank you everyone for the information.

I dont think anyone is here to insult you, just offer their advice and thoughts. dealer waxes and Gap policies are their to bump up their margins both items are readily available elsewhere which is what andytran was trying to point out to you.
the product may or may not work, what andy was trying to say was different things have different effects on the paint but most importantly was the cost of the product used,which is less than £50 and dealer is charging a fortune to apply it
I for one am really sorry you feel offended by any comment left as this is really a very friendly forum where members give their advice to help and yes sometimes their is the odd banter and joke.

at the end of the day if you feel the product will work for you and you are happy with the cost then go for it
best wishes deks36

 

[nissanjukebox]

IMHO a dealer sell cars and is not a detailer of cars.
as simpel as that.

 

[rochesb]

There is plenty of evidence on various car detailing forums to support andytrans view about the dealer paint and interior trim 'protection' systems being no better than a good wax & polish regime.

 

[12Inchmick]

"New Balls Please".............................

 

[simps]

@Andytran... to be fair a few of your posts have come across, perhaps, not as you intended
I understand your point and so do most of us, but be aware that not everyone is as forum literate as you are! all these things are great when said with a smile on your face and a chuckle, but that body language is not here and can easily be misconstrued.
I believe you mean no disrespect, but suggest a little proof reading before you hit the send button???
lots of love xxx