[tonyc66]

Hi
Iread some people have had problems playing iTunes music from a memory stick.
The answer seems to be to convert the stuff to MP3 then it should be OK.
as usual Mac owners dont have any real answers other than to burn an mp3 CD, double handed process and un needed if youhave a proper computer !
to this end i dida little hunting and found this little program to be really quick and easy to use.
http://www.nch.com.au/switch/mp3.html?gclid=CJOz9-f-vqYCFcgf4Qod1TBCHQ
you can do mass conversions and its really quick.
I hope this helps someone, My Juke arrives next week (hopefully) so i am preparing my playlists ready for some crusing and some posing

 

[acrorat]

Gosh, we poor Maccers can manage to burn to USB Sticks too, ain't that a shame

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And we can run Windoze as well, what's the world coming to?

 

[Dougal]

One day we will all have free operating systems and software of all kinds to run on them too. But, for the moment it only seems to be me and millions of others running Linux versions of one kind or another that are winning.Linux can do it all!!! Well almost...
Most likely the software behind the Juke's interface is a version of Linux.All Android based smartphones and tablets are running a version of Linux.Shrek was made using mostly Linux machines.Critical industrial system use mostly Linux.Lets face it Windoze has pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes for a very long time.Mac is good but, limited and you have to pay too.Linux is free, will run hundreds of different softwares and if it is not there you can learn to make your own - for free. If you NEED your comfort rag called Windoze then you can install it alongside or even inside Linux but, why would you want to? Oh, yes - so that you can run that piece of software that writes letters and creates spreadsheets and stuff. Which you can do on Limux for freeeee........
So what am I getting at? Well if Android is behind the Juke's software then some smart person might just start writing software that can interface with the central information display and do some cool stuff like play 'Good Morning' to you when you open the door or change the way the display shows stuff. Change the display for a big digital clock along with nice weather graphics. Play multimedia cartoons or video files and so on and so on. BUT I bet it ain't easy to gain access - or is it?

 

[JUKEOFYORK]

I assume you like linux,then.

 

[acrorat]

I run Linux as well, albeit rarely these days, and could ask my daughter's boyfriend about the possibility of gaining access to the CID, as he is a Unix Programmer with car and aeroplane software experience. Might make an interesting project for his (limited) spare time

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There's plenty of 'free' Mac Software out there, btw, like Open Office, which will do everything MicroShaft Office does, including saving as pdfs and such like. I like the Mac Suites, however, and have no objection to paying good money for good things.

I've been Maccing for almost 20 years, and only touch Windoze for work, where there is no choice.

The problem arises with those who are 'locked into' a single OS, fear of the unknown etc, and, of course, the gamers, as Linux (so far) doesn't often get included in the big game mindset.

 

[Stormrider]

Gosh, we poor Maccers can manage to burn to USB Sticks too, ain't that a shame

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And we can run Windoze as well, what's the world coming to?

Luckily windows users never have a reason to Mac OS. I would fear for my health if I ever had to use that pile of junk for more than an hour or so

 

[acrorat]

I'm still alive after 20 years of it, LOL.

 

[Stormrider]

Oh, and for the record, I have plenty of unix experience as I run several web servers, and have had a few desktop editions installed as well. Use the right tool for the right job I say. Windows is a fantastic desktop OS (despite the people who like to sl*g off MS for being successful saying otherwise), linux just isn't there yet in terms of the desktop experience and user friendliness. As for Macs... well they are good for... erm... don't know, will get back to you on that one! We have several macs at work that I try to use every now and then. My boss uses one for work all the time, and has done for about a year, and hates the thing. He knows he would be so much more productive on a PC but seems to have this idea that working on a mac will give our clients the 'right impression' (he's a designer - macs were better for design in the 90s, but not now).

Windows 7 is the best OS MS have ever done, and people love to sl*g them off, but there is no real reason other than their success. Apple have a terrible record on security, usability, customer service and pricing, and are generally 'style over function' products in my view. They are good at making things look shiny, but there is a **** of a lot more to a user interface than how it looks... which a lot of people don't seem to have grasped yet. Mac OS is basically a stripped down version of unix with all the good bits removed and a load of rubbish put on top, which severely limits it.

The linux desktops will become more and more popular, and I will always use linux over windows for a server without a doubt, but I just don't think it will ever become more popular, or the norm.

Anyway, just my thoughts

Edited by: Stormrider

 

[acrorat]

It's all down to personal choice and what you use your computer for.

For me, it's a pleasure to switch off the Windoze laptop and switch on my Mac, simple as that.

I like the simplicity of Linux, but its present restrictions won't make it my first choice of OS.

I didn't mind DOS so very much, as it was, marginally, better than the BBC B system I used previously

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As far as "terrible record on security, usability, customer service and pricing", I can only record my personal experience as excellent on the first three, and agreed they were very expensive until quite recently, now less so, depending on comparing like with like, obviously. You can get rot boxes for pennies, but I have kept my Apple laptops for five years, and their resale values were very good. And my original, now, 9 year old Powerbook is still running just fine with its third owner, not a single problem with it

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[....]

I like to play withboth, ambidextrus and all that!!! Both have advantages and are better at different things which is why I have one of each.

 

[Dougal]

Stormrider - I don't mean to offend so please accept my apologies if you think I have.
I only lightheartedly voiced my humble opinion.

The latest couple of Windoze incarnations have been for the user of Windoze as all their software that has cost hundreds of pounds is geared only to work with their OS. If I had the choice when buying a new PC or Laptop as to what system I would like running the show it would have to be a version of Ubuntu called Ultimate Edition which is on version 2.8 at the mo.
For interest I have been involved with computers and software since the mid eighties and have come through all the DOS versions and into Windows from version 2.0.Although, I had never used Unix for anything other than terminal applications and getting information (which was quick compared with Windows as you probably know), I turned to Linux whilst looking for something different to what the majority were having to use. Like turning to the Juke from all other cars - it is different.It is true that in the early days and until recently, Linux was still a bit user unfriendly but, not now.Look at how it helped the Netbooks get going with Linpus.It got the smartphones to be interesting and today rivals if not betters the iPad with units like the Motorola Xoom and the Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Just like some versions of the Juke we yearn for that bit of extra oomph!! and for me that is Linux Ultimate Edition. It is a little heavyweight when starting up but, it has so many software packages there all ready to go and OpenOffice loads and runs like a bat out of **** (it is not nearly as quick to use in Windows).Shutdown time is five seconds and that is without hibernating unlike Windows 7.I have to use Windows at work and it is perfectly adequate at what it does but, I have never felt that I can do what I want with it. If I need say a datalogging program for running an experiment I have to buy one.If I want a decent graphics program for altering photos (until recently) I had to buy one.
Don't get me wrong I think Windows has it's place and the Mac has it's place.The Windows environment as you have said is easy on the eye but, nowadays I would bet it is no easier to use for a newcomer than either Mac or Linux. My 12 year old niece uses Linux straight off after I had loaded it onto an old HP tablet for her and she has no difficulty finding programs that she needs to use and has never had to call upon me to get her out of any difficulty she might have - I'm afraid that can't be said for Windows.We have been using Windows 7 at work for around a year now and I am one of the testers for Desktop systems as I am involved with making sure that third party software will run on any Windows system required and there are as many problems with Windows as there are for any other system.No programmer can account for every scenario as there will always be ones that have not come to light.
Anyways, I am rabbiting on here. Yes I like Linux. It is full of free gadgets and goes like the clappers just like the Juke.If I wanted an everyday bog-standard car I would have gone for a VW Golf (nothing wrong with them) and in the same light if I wanted a bog-standard OS I would choose Windows but, it doesn't light my fire.Do you know what I mean??
Cars - Juke all the way.OS - It has to be Linux UE 2.8.
That's my choices.

 

[Stormrider]

I've used linux before, I just find it too limiting. I hate OpenOffice anyway (it's pretty much at the stage MS Office was in 1996) so wouldn't be caught dead using that!

There is a reason windows is the most popular OS, and it's not due to any underhand marketing or business, it's because it is good. People enjoy slagging it off, but people don't like success!

My PC is perfectly fast enough for me with windows 7. I have far more concerns about which OS I use than it's shut-down time!

I think you'll find though that until pretty recently (and in fact probably still now) most embedded devices used Windows 3.1 embedded - which is why they only stopped selling that version of windows about a year ago (amazing really given how old it is!) You'd be surprised how many. Yes linux is being popularised through things like Android (which I love), but that is quite a specialised use for an OS, and has had a lot of modification by the open handset alliance (of which Google is the biggest company) in order to get to where it is. A PC operating system has to deal with a lot more than a phone.

 

[feefeeglasgow]

Excuse my technological uselessness but all I can say about the abovethread is

WHAT ARE YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT - YOU LOST ME IN THE FIRST POST.....

Fee x

 

[acrorat]

Just competitive geeking

 

[seatraveller2002]

Windows = pile of junk !!Mac = Excellence
Windows users are just jealous of the fact that MAC is different (just like the JUKE) and are afraid !!At least Mac computers are stylish unlike windows junk !!

 

[12Inchmick]

Windows = pile of junk !!Mac = Excellence
Windows users are just jealous of the fact that MAC is different (just like the JUKE) and are afraid !!At least Mac computers are stylish unlike windows junk !!

 

[acrorat]

In fairness, Microshaft don't make computers proper, though not everyone realises this, so the junkiness of some systems is down to the actual hardware manufacturer. There are some perfectly decent machines as well as some rot boxes.

Because Apple doesn't licence its OS to others (with a few early exceptions), if you want to run a Mac OS you need an Apple Machine, or a hack.

The hacks are illegal, of course, and seldom give the full-on experience. A friend's son, being given a nasty little notebook a few Christmases ago, his first act was to hack a Mac OS onto it. Ultimately he became frustrated with this second class method, sold his guitar and desktop PC, and got himself a nice fast MacBook with the education discount applied. He has been a smiley person ever since, and now works as a web designer

, and can afford a new guitar as well.

 

[Dougal]

Each to their own I guess.

Just like choosing the Juke 1.6 Tekna DiG-T 4WD/CVT coz it looks cool, has more gadgets and you feel good driving it - so it is with my favourite computer operating system Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.8. It does everything that I need it to while looking good.
If you like Windows or Mac then fine. I have no problem.
For anyone else interested in seeing the differences between 'Windows versus Linux' just type it into Youtube.
For me it is like comparing a Ford to the Juke. It's OK and does the job but, where's the fun.

I'll give up on this now, enough time wasted. Will go back to dreaming of the Pearly White arriving in May